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December 15

Cannot figure out how to mark a page that needs to be updated and I don't know the information to do so


I cannot find the code to add to a page that needs to be updated with new information. Can someone please let me know what it is. Kevinhanit (talk) 00:09, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

@Kevinhanit: Is Template:Update what you are looking for? Eagleash (talk) 01:21, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
@Eagleash: I ended up finding the Template that I needed and it was Template:Outdated Kevinhanit (talk) 21:20, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

So this one is now  Done

Texas Civil Air Patrol patch on Wikipedia

The designer of the Texas Civil Air Patrol patch was designed by Melvin W. Cox of Ft. Worth. In the late 1940's, Texas had a art contest for the designing of the patch for the Texas CAP. My father, Mel Cox won the contest and his design is still used today for the Texas CAP patch. At that time, Mel Cox was a Major and Company Commander of CAP's Ft. Worth Squadron One — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 06:01, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Hello; do you have a question relating to how to edit Wikipedia? Please provide a link to any page you are encountering difficulty with. This thread is the only edit from the IP used to post here. Some useful links have been left at your talk page. Eagleash (talk) 10:22, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

how to delete pages spreading false rumours ?

Someone is spreading false rumors about my organisation , how i can stop them from using wikipedia as a medium to do the same ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:34, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Without specifics, all I can do is suggest you check out Wikipedia:Requests for page protection or Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:48, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
Yes, a link to the article would help. Britmax (talk) 15:36, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
An article about a non-notable subject will be deleted, regardless of its contents. An article about a notable subject will not be deleted, regardless of its existing contents. Instead, it will be corrected. Wikipedia cannot determine "truth" or "falsehood": we can only determine verifiability. Any statement that cannot be verified by by a citation to a reliable source (WP:RS) can be removed by any editor. Any statement that can be verified by such a citation should not be removed (with certain exceptions: see WP:BLP). However, if the statement is contradicted by another reliable source, then that contradiction may be added to the article. You have a conflict of interest (WP:COI) so you should not edit the article yourself. Instead, you should make edit suggestions on the article's talk page. -Arch dude (talk) 23:08, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

James Kitson, 1st Baron Airedale

Ref number 9 is in red and I don't know why. Please fix if you are able. Thanks (talk) 10:30, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Because you have spelt December incorrectly. Eagleash (talk) 10:48, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:06, 15 December 2018 (UTC)


Is there a simple guide to what to do (if anything) about BLPs where the usernames of a couple of contributors suggest that they may be connected to the subject? I've found plenty of advice about what to do if I have a COI, but is there anything we should be doing when we stumble across an article such as Jon M. Sweeney? Certes (talk) 13:20, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

The article could be tagged with {{COI}}. Normally we would also go to the editor's talk page to explain the concern, but in the case of User:Jonmsweeney that was done some months ago. Of course we can't be altogether certain that the editor is the same person whom the article is about: could just be a fan. Any additions to articles that are unsourced and blatantly promotional should just be reverted whoever makes them, but it doesn't seem to me that that applies in this case: Noyster (talk), 17:46, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply. It looks as if there's nothing further to do in this case, as the article doesn't show the blatant bias that {{COI}} might imply. Certes (talk) 17:51, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Leeds General Infirmary

I am not happy with the way I have done ref. number 13. Sorry. Please fix if able. (talk) 13:27, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

 Done; Date in publisher parameter! Eagleash (talk) 13:47, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
Sorry Eagleash - I added in a quote - ref 13 - and ruined it. Please fix if you can. thanks again (talk) 13:51, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
I've fixed it now. To add a new parameter, use an equals sign instead of the colon you used; the layout of a named (not numerical) parameter is pipe (|), parameter name, equals sign (=), and parameter text. In this case, it would be |quote=[PUTQUOTEHERE] added to the end of the template. The world of templates is quite complicated so please feel free to ask here if you have any further questions.--SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 13:58, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
(edit conflict) SkyGazer 512 has fixed it. Once again please don't start new threads with the same heading. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 14:03, 15 December 2018 (UTC)


a todas la personas queAgradesco forman WIKIPEDIA el poder estar escribiendo esto. Mi pregunta es puedo crear un libro libremente con todo lo publicado en Wikipedia sobre Vehiculos que incluya fotos y demas informacion otra cosa debido ha que mi ortografia no es muy buena como podreis observar como puedo utizar un corrector para escribir aqui saludos — Preceding unsigned comment added by OLGAVILA (talkcontribs) 21:26, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Machine translation: "My question is I can create a book freely with everything published in Wikipedia on Vehicles that includes photos and other information otherwise because my spelling is not very good as you can see how I can use a proofreader to write here." General Ization Talk 21:29, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

I've Tried to Upload the 2019 pro bowl Logo and it's Not there upload it now and Stop Being Lazy. (talk) 21:42, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Stop telling people to do your work. It's annoying and won't get you anywhere. We're all volunteers and there is no deadline. Also if you ask at WP: WikiProject American football, they're more likely to care more and someone there could help. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:15, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
The user who used to upload them (at least in recent years) Jdavi333, is now less active. I've uploaded it per fair use as the rest . –Ammarpad (talk) 18:08, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Required status column for Telaga caste. Mark as Forward caste

Telaga caste history and correct current status (Forward or Other Caste) needs to be added to the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:45:480:DF62:5B4:C169:CE56:2B6F (talk) 10:33, 7 December 2018 (UTC) Follow the URL (very reliable source recently published) - — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:45:480:DF62:5B4:C169:CE56:2B6F (talk) 11:39, 7 December 2018 (UTC) Excellent reliable source - — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:45:480:DF62:5B4:C169:CE56:2B6F (talk) 11:41, 7 December 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:45:480:DF62:30E2:3A56:D087:DFFA (talk)

Well, no. As has been described at Talk:Telaga, the article requires reliable sources to justify such a claim. Thanks, Lourdes 05:26, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Submit ArticleKyoho (talk) 00:37, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Hello - I've got a draft of a new article in my sandbox. I think it's ready to go. Sorry, it's been a long time since I wrote my last one so I can't remember what I need to do next. Thanks for your help, Kyoho (talk) 00:37, 16 December 2018 (UTC)Cheryl CrowleyKyoho (talk) 00:37, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

@Kyoho: Hello, I have undertaken some tidying of the page: if you consider that it is ready for mainspace you can place {{subst:submit}} at the top of the page, which will submit it for AFC review. Or, as I believe your account has sufficient longevity and number of edits, you can move the page to article space yourself via the 'more' tab at the top of the page. Select 'Article' from the very top of the dropdown and remember to change the new title to the subject's name: check that there are not other pages with the same name. If so add a disambiguation (in brackets) e.g. 'diplomat' (small 'd'). Good luck. Eagleash (talk) 05:06, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! Kyoho (talk) 16:10, 16 December 2018 (UTC)Cheryl

December 16


  • Hello. Question about English Wikipedia laws. In English Wikipedia, I can make redirect from English article in Russian Wikiquote? If English Wikiquote don't have article on English language. (talk) 00:53, 16 December 2018 (UTC) You can link to Russian Wikiquote by prefixing the page name with :ru:q: For example the main page there is :ru:q:. Is that what you want? —teb728 t c 02:21, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
teb728 In article White Oleander (film), i can make redirect in Russian Wikiquote? English Wikiquote don't have article about that movie. (talk) 02:37, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
teb728 thank (talk) 04:38, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Indexation of my article on google search

hi can you index my article on google search, as I am unable to do so. URL of my article : thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lumoscoco (talkcontribs) 05:47, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

@Lumoscoco: New pages are not indexed by search engines for 90 days or until they have been reviewed, whichever is the shorter period. Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 06:14, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Contact Wiki Dubai

Good Morning,

I am contacting you from the royal family private office in the UAE. I would like to be redirected to someone from your office in the UAE, regarding publishing a page of a person from the royal family.

Kindly update me with an email or contact number ASAP.

Best regards, Kaltham — Preceding unsigned comment added by M8Mansoor (talkcontribs) 09:56, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

M8Mansoor If your issue involves just creating an article, there is no central authority or office to contact; this project is run by volunteers from around the world. Feel free to discuss it here; you may want to read about conflict of interest and paid editing (click those links) first. 331dot (talk) 10:00, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
Hello, Kaltham. As 331dot explained, Wikipedia is not organised like that: everything is done by volunteers who choose what they wish to work on, including writing and editing articles. But please note that if at some point Wikipedia has an article about that royal person, its status will be exactly the same as all other articles: it should be based almost entirely on what independent writers have chosen to write about the person in reliably published sources; and they and their associates will have no control over the content of the article: their involvement should be limited to making suggestions for improvements. --ColinFine (talk) 12:13, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
Hi M8Mansoor, if this is about the article you are working on in your sandbox, then you need to read WP:Referencing for beginners, and move the references to in-line citations before submitting the article for review. Dbfirs 09:14, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
... later ... You were correct to add the "Reflist" tag, but the actual references go in the main text immediately after the statement that each one supports. The system then automatically lists the references under that heading. Dbfirs 21:07, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

References / External links

Hi, I need some advice. I'm making a page about a football player and I have put a reference on a site with profile of that player. Since it could be put as external link, should I put it as reference, external link or both? — SimplyFreddie (talk) 12:24, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

@SimplyFreddie: As a general principle, if the source is used to support a statement in the article content, it should be placed inline at the point in the text where it applies. Once used as a reference the same source should not usually be included as an external link as well. Eagleash (talk) 13:08, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Adding filming location citations

Last year, I tried to add some information and citations for filming locations that I catalog on my website, At the time, there were issues as they felt I was self-promoting or advertising my website. (FYI, it is an informational only website, there or no ads or other revenue generating items.)

I think the confusion was because I was not considered a verifiable expert in the field. However, I see some of my peers are allowed to post. If you need to verify more background information on me, I am a writer for HorrorHound magazine, write articles for Horror's Hallowed Grounds, and also produce some filming location videos for blurays, most recently, The Incredible Shrinking Woman, Silent Night Deadly Night, and Silent Night Deadly Night Part 2.

Thank you in advance and let me know how I can share these filming locations information on wikipedia. (EDIT: If you need proof of my authorship, please let me know and I can provide.)

Robert Patterson — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rmpatterson (talkcontribs) 19:14, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Rmpatterson, Wikipedia does not rely on the knowledge of its contributors. Whether you are an expert in the field, verifiable or not, is irrelevant. Rather, Wikipedia relies on what has been published in reliable independent sources. If you cite such sources, the information you provide on filming locations is likely to be accepted. Maproom (talk) 20:57, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

December 17

How can I change the title of a wikipedia page?

I am trying to change the page entitled "He Hymn of Death" to The Hymn of Death. Please tell me how to do this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cgwm (talkcontribs) 00:04, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

@Cgwm: The title is changed by 'moving' to a new location. This is done via the 'more' tab at the top of the page. It might be an idea to make a note on the article talk page with any sources that are available to support the correct title. Eagleash (talk) 00:59, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
The page He Hymn of Death has been moved to Hymn of Death. --Orange Mike | Talk 05:01, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Book Author

Helllo. How does an Author get added to the author list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ig-oliver (talkcontribs) 15:22, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Do you mean one of our List of English writers articles? As you can see, all the links in those lists are blue, which means that they lead to an existing article about that person. That's the standard for our list articles. To get an article, an author must be notable. That is they must have been written about extensively in reliable, independent publications. Rojomoke (talk) 15:54, 17 December 2018 (UTC)


What is the address of WIKIPEDIA? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:98A:303:D1E0:95F2:4C3B:2D24:7890 (talk) 17:00, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Which address are you looking for? 331dot (talk) 17:06, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
If you're trying to send a donation, the address can be found here. †dismas†|(talk) 21:26, 17 December 2018 (UTC)


I'd be glad to donate to Wikipedia, but I don't put my credit card info online, where can I send a personal check? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:00, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

An address to mail a check to can be found here. Note that as an unregistered user, you will likely keep getting automatic notices requesting donations as that system does not know if you have donated or not. If you register an account you can turn the notices off. 331dot (talk) 18:25, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Photo image rights, syntax, for (English) article Yisroel Zev Gustman

It is used in the Hebrew article, and the photo can load in my browser as

The uploader says he is MeVaTayr, means waves, ... LirShus HaRaBim, to the public, BeChoL HaO-Lam, worldwide.

The file is

  • Can this photo be used in the English article; I've seen photos in (English) articles with non-English text in the photo's page, such as for some IBM mainframes, so my inclination is that the answer is yes.
  • Since "File:" for Gustman.jpg doesn't seem to work, and the Hebrew article uses a prefix that transliterates to KoVaytz (Colon) followed by (in English) Gustman.jpg
    • What is the syntax to use @ Infobox person's "image=" Pi314m (talk) 18:32, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
Hello, Pi314m. As you say, the uploading user has explicitly waived all rights in the image. However, it is not technically possible to use a file that is in another Wikipedia. But the second box on the File description page says that it is a candidate for transferring to Wikimedia Commons (he:wiki:ויקישיתוף). Once it has been transferred, then it can be used in any Wikipedia (in fact, any Wikimedia project). I believe any user can do this transfer, though I've never done it myself. See Moving files to Commons for how to do it from enwiki: I presume it is the same from hewiki.
Once the file is in Commons, it can be used with the "File:" prefix like any other file. Note that the documentation for {{infobox person}} says of the "image =" parameter: " filename only, no "File:" or "Image:" prefix, and no enclosing brackets ". --ColinFine (talk) 20:52, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Request for deletion hanging fire

I nominated Character matrix printer for deletion. Nobody seems to have noticed: it doesn't appear on the list of discussions, nobody's voted on it, and no administrator has acted on it after 2 weeks. Am I doing something wrong? Isaac Rabinovitch (talk) 18:40, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

@Isaac Rabinovitch: Some of the steps at WP:AFDHOW had not been completed. There were missing headings at the deletion discussion and I don't think it had been added to the log per step III. I have fixed that now (I hope!) and I expect the 'time' starts again from now. Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 19:41, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
Even if you never use it for anything else, Twinkle makes these deletion nominations delightfully simple: Noyster (talk), 20:13, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
@Eagleash: That does look like a very useful tool, thanks for mentioning it. And for fixing my submission. Though I wish procedures on WP weren't so ****ing complicated. Isaac Rabinovitch (talk) 21:17, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
It was actually Noyster who mentioned it; ...I tend to shy away from such 'witchcraft'! Eagleash (talk) 01:34, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Page for an athlete

Hello I am sports agent in Charlotte NC and I am trying to create a page for an athlete — Preceding unsigned comment added by GolfFan1 (talkcontribs) 20:37, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

As an agent, you probably have a WP:Conflict of interest, and might need to comply with the policy on WP:Paid status. You could request an article at WP:Requested articles. Dbfirs 21:02, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Hello, GolfFan1. Creating a new article is one of the more difficult tasks on Wikipedia; but any user is entitled to try it: see your first article for lots of information about this.
Your wording gives me reason to think that it might be even harder for you to do this than usual case, because you probably have a conflict of interest, you may very well be considered at doing paid editing, and you are probably at risk of including promotional material. Please understand that Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a business directory or showcase; and that an article about your athlete will not be necessarily contribute usefully to their online presence (see WP:PRIDE) It should be based almost entirely what people who have no connection with them have previously chosen to publish about them, and neither the athlete nor their associates will have any control whatever over the contents of the article. If you are satisfied that the athlete is notable in the special sense that Wikipedia uses the word (if not, it will be a waste of your time even trying any further), then please read all the pages carefully that I have linked to before you proceed any further. --ColinFine (talk) 21:06, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Is the text formatted properly?

An editor changed subsection headings ("Domestic" and "Foreign") from using equal signs (=) to using a semicolon in the wikicode. I was wondering if that is appropriate and if you could provide a link with the guidance. Thanks. Thinker78 (talk) 22:10, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

@Thinker78: I believe the equal signs should be restored. Help:Wikitext#Lists mentions that semicolons are used for descriptions lists, which does not seem to be the case here. Further, the page states Do not use a semicolon (;) simply to bold a line without defining a value using a colon (:). This usage renders invalid HTML5 and creates issues with screen readers. Hope this helps! –FlyingAce✈hello 00:35, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
I agree. One minor point to take care with: at the same time, that editor also added a reference to the "Foreign" heading. When you change it back to a proper heading (with = signs) that ref will have to be moved out of the heading, to some text. --Gronk Oz (talk) 08:00, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Peer review process

Hi, I'm interested in editing the wiki article about my workplace. I understand that this potentially raises a COI issue, but I am not sure how to start the peer review process? Do I need to contact specific editors? The particular editor who raised this issue initially and deleted all of my previous contributions to the article is now actually blocked by Wikipedia, so I am not sure if I can contact them. Thank you! Irenepark89 (talk) 22:38, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Good form would be that on the talk page of the article, you may suggest the changes you want to be made to the article. Then wait for response from the community; if no one objects for a reasonable time, include those changes. Lourdes 02:51, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
@Irenepark89: as Lourdes says, add your suggested edits in section on the article's talk page. Place the magic incantation {{request edit}} (with the curly brackets) in the section. This will attract the attention of an editor. That editor will make the changes if the editor thinks they are appropriate. Declare your COI on your user page. If your job can be thought of even broadly to include publicizing your company, then you are a paid editor (WP:PAID), not just an editor with a COI. This is not a problem, just a fact, and you must declare this (e.g., on your user page) to comply with our terms of service. Don't be put off by all this, your contributions are likely to be valuable, but we do want a second set of eyes on them to mitigate any unconscious bias. -Arch dude (talk) 03:47, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

List of wedding guests of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle

I have accidently wiped a bit off - sorry Srbernadette (talk) 23:09, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Restored. You can do this yourself. General Ization Talk 23:16, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
Pity you didn't get all of it. Britmax (talk) 23:22, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Submission of article drafts

Hello. I have a draft article for submission pending. You nay find it here: . Since I've posted this, I've written two more articles and have another I am working on. They are currently in a Word document, not in my sandbox. How do I get these drafts submitted while I've may sandbox occupied by one which is pending? I look forward to hearing from someone. (talk) 23:24, 17 December 2018 (UTC)Sorry, just realized I was not logged in.Hu Nhu (talk) 23:28, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi Hu Nhu Welcome to Help desk. Your draft article Draft:Fully Feathered Baskets in NOT in your sandbox but in the pool of drafts waiting in review. You could go to Article_wizard - see HERE to get your new article set up. Once you deemed is good for review just click the submit button. For any question on Article of Creation (AfC), you could go to AfC help desk for assistance - see Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 04:36, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Thank you CASSIOPEIA (I hope this—CASSIOPEIA—)is the correct and effective manner in which to alert you.) I am grateful for your assistance and attention. I will look at the information you provided me. I've not a published article and have read somewhat about the matter. I also do much to look at featured articles and mimic their editing patterns. What you gave will be of much further hope. I do believe my articles are good and meet Wikipedia standards. I did try an article on German Wikipedia as an exercise for my German, college class. I thought it lacked and the rejection confirmed this. Nevertheless, it was interesting, especially noodling through the German Wikipedia site. My English articles are far more sophisticated. I appreciate your efforts.Hu Nhu (talk) 16:39, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Hu Nhu You are welcome. Since you have not had an article published and not sure you have read WP:Your First Article, if not, do check it out. Do pop by my talk page if anything I would help. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 17:54, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

December 18

Family of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge

Please don't get angry - I have added a citation which is from a college magazine so the publisher is hard to ascertain. Please fix Ref number 99 on this page. Thanks Srbernadette (talk) 03:16, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

The publisher of a college or school magazine can be assumed to be the college or school, in this case Roedean School. General Ization Talk 03:27, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Serge Lazareff Page

Good morning, I created a page talking about the person Serge Lazareff. I'm working for NATO and we have a directive to institutionalize a "Serge Lazareff Prize", which is for the persons who did something good for legal services. This prize was authorized by a directive from our Chief of Staff (4 stars general). Now I received the information than I cannot talk about persons, I cannot promote persons. This person already died, and is our Patron, for our Legal Office at NATO. I would like to publish a page with Serge Lazareff photo and writing about his life, also explain what the prize means. Please I will wait for help in this matter. Have a nice day

Kind regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by OLA NATO (talkcontribs) 08:36, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not publish promotional material. You have a WP:Conflict of interest and probably WP:Paid status, so you are not the best person to create such articles. If you can find independent WP:Reliable sources in which the subject is written about at length, then an article which summarises these sources would be permitted. Wikipedia has no interest in any directives from NATO or from generals, however many stars. It just reports what has already been published elsewhere. You may request articles at WP:Requested articles, but any such article will not be under your control. Dbfirs 09:10, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

How to you comment on the revision section of a page if you are undoing an edit?

Hi there, I undid an edit by pressing undo but don't know how to comment on the revision I made. I need to add an explanation to the revision page.Epicforest (talk) 10:20, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

The place to explain your edit is in the edit summary. If a longer explanation is needed, use the article's talk page. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:14, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Activating structured discussions on my talk page

On Wikidata I can enable "Structured Discussions on user talk", how do I do that here on enwiki?--Micru (talk) 10:58, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

@Micru: Wikipedia:Flow says: "Flow was uninstalled from English Wikipedia in November 2016, by request from the community. You might encounter it on other Wikimedia wikis however. There are currently no plans for it to return to English Wikipedia." PrimeHunter (talk) 22:31, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Use of "via" and "free access" symbol in citations

I was under the impression that WP encourages editors to include the source note "" and the "open access" logo Free to read when adding "Clippings" to citations, as per the example given on However, these items were deleted by another editor when I added clippings to the biography of John Le Mesurier, which happens to be a Featured Article. So, is including this information recommended or not?--Muzilon (talk) 10:59, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Your first course of action for cases like this should be to take up the issue with the other editor at either the article's talk page or the editor's talk page. I cannot see where you have done this.
|via= is used to provide the name of the source deliverer when that name is different from the publisher. {{free access}} is intended to identify a source that is free-to-read. In cs1|2 templates like {{cite news}}, |title= linked to a source by |url= is presumed to be free-to-read – this is the norm and cs1|2 does not highlight the norm. This is why |url-access=free is not a valid parameter/value pair.
Prior to this edit, had this:
  • Make sure to include the {{Open access}} template in citations of clippings: we want our readers to know that they can access these articles.
That 'requirement' (if it was a requirement) was removed and has not been disputed or restored ({{open access}}, clearly inappropriate, was replaced with {{free access}} at a later edit).
For what it is worth, it is my opinion that for the two cs1|2 templates at John Le Mesurier, | is appropriate; {{free access}} is not.
Trappist the monk (talk) 11:44, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
This was (or so I thought) really a general question about the standard procedure (if any) for citing rather than a problem specifically relating to the article I gave as an example. That is why I asked here rather than on the John Le Mesurier talk page (much less bothering the other editor at this point). Thanks for the reply in any case. --Muzilon (talk) 12:19, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

template fix request

please fix {{iso2language|lij}} with link to Ligurian (Romance language). thanks!!! --2001:B07:6442:8903:8D3C:C5DA:57A1:9F2F (talk) 14:53, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Well, that was an adventure. {{iso2language}} invokes {{ISO 639 name}}, which is protected, so you must first find it, then view source to get a "submit edit request" button. This lets you add your request to that template's talk page in a structured way. I have done this. It's not clear how a mere mortal is supposed to figure this out. -Arch dude (talk) 16:13, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
This is also discussed at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#template fix request. Please only ask a question in one place. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:58, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Cannot Edit My Own Wikipedia Page

Zac Brewer ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Hi there! My name is Zac Brewer and I've tried to correct info on my page, but keep getting warnings that my changes have been reverted due to being vandalism...? How do I correct my own info so the public knows the truth about me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:56, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Zac. Please do not edit that article directly: see WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY. (Exception: you, or anyone, may remove incorrect, unsourced information). If there are errors, please make suggexted changes, with sources, on the article's talk page, and add the magic incantation {{edit request}} (with the curly brackets) to your suggestion. An editor without your unavoidable conflict of interest will come along and fix the article for you. On behalf of our readership, we have no interest in what a subject has to say about himself, only in what reliable sources say about him. Please think about this in terms of what rules you would want us to apply to some subject you do not know about and for which you would like to get reliable, unbiased information. But please do make those suggestions if you think they improve the article. Thanks! -Arch dude (talk) 16:33, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Irish speaker required

I've been working on a page for the Irish folk song "Carraig Aonair" known in English as "The Lone Rock". I need help from an Irish speaker to correctly syllablise the original Irish words to the music. Please go to User:Martin of Sheffield/sandbox if you can help. If you are not used to Lilypond syntax don't worry, we can work on things together. Thanks, Martin of Sheffield (talk) 16:44, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

List of users who speak Irish , the -# indicates the proficiency they claim. Find one that is active and sounds good to you, and ask them. WelpThatWorked (talk) 20:06, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Excellent idea. Thanks, Martin of Sheffield (talk) 21:00, 18 December 2018 (UTC)


I need to update Achronix's logo as they have a new one:

This is their Wikipedia page: — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:41, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Logo updated. Have fun! WelpThatWorked (talk) 19:55, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Link in Riceland Foods

A previous editor attempted to place the piped link [[biodegradation|bio-degradable]] in the intro of Riceland Foods, but, for whatever reason, the link was unsuccessful. I tried to correct the issue by re-inserting the link, but I was unsuccessful. An attempt to use the link in the sandbox was successful, however. Why is it not working in the article then? - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 20:27, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

There was a spurious <nowiki> tag in the wikitext, which caused the normal wiki markup not to be recognised: Noyster (talk), 20:42, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

How can Wikipedia justify deleting the profile of Scottish GP Dr Malcolm Kendrick?

Dr Kendrick is a hugely respected and highly scrupulous scientist who deals only in scientific facts.

His deletion is a travesty.

His profile should be restored and an apology made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BobCrabtree (talkcontribs) 20:28, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Articles require independent sources with in depth coverage of the subject. If those sources are supplied there will be no trouble keeping the article. Stuartyeates (talk) 20:30, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
This is in regards to Malcolm Kendrick which was deleted after a lengthy deletion dicussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Malcolm Kendrick. It looks like the subject of the article directed his supporters to try to influence the outcome; however, deletion discussions are not a vote and it looks very suspicious when a flood of new accounts comes to comment on a discussion. shoy (reactions) 20:41, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Read Wikipedia:Notability (people) and Wikipedia:Your first article carefully and start working. If there's sources that show he is notable in the WP-sense, you can succeed. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:11, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
According to the comments on Kendrick's blog, apparently the article was deleted because of "vegans" and the "agents of Big Pharma" [1]. Jimmy Wales is also apparently involved. Back in reality, of course, the truth is far more prosaic - not enough third-party coverage to pass the general notability guidelines. Black Kite (talk) 22:53, 18 December 2018 (UTC)